The physicist and the theologian.

Symbolising the two "levels" of thinking.

Symbolising the two “levels” of thinking.

Today I watched a question and answer program on the ABC where, as a result of a question posed by a member of the audience, a physicist and a theologian got to discussing what came before creation. In a nutshell it became a matter of there being nothing before creation but that nothing was actually something with the theologian seeing that nothing as something viz. God.

I sat watching this, to me, impossible effort at realisation and I kept on saying, ‘You cannot resolve this dilemma by use of the mind! It requires the elimination of the mind!’

The fact is that I had already written about this in my book in 1996 and at various times since then. I had no difficulty with doing this because I had, by then, developed the ability to eliminate the mind and free up “Thought” – what I termed “neoption” or ‘seeing without eyes’.

All this is available to anyone by simply reading what I have written where this aspect of the reality is but a small part of the whole.

Here is an extract of a page as one example:

“Each cell is made up of, and contains, material that consists of molecules that, in turn, consist of atoms, then protons and electrons and so on down to a state of subatomic energy now said by physicists to alternate between a state of existence and non-existence. This is the point of Creation of all ‘matter’, the point at which Spirit becomes matter or, more correctly, the basics from which matter is formed. The “state of non-existence” is the creative intelligence that is the Great Spirit i.e. “Thought”, and the “state of existence” the primary state of all matter and all that is derived from it.”

And here, also from the book, an enigmatic explanation of the whole in a nutshell:

Thought creates

Creation manifests

Thought manifests.

1 These three lines encapsulate the cause and effect of everything relating to life.

Note: These three lines appear in the title page of The Milk Is White and often thereafter   in my writings


About Ian Gardner

Ian Gardner was born on the 20th February 1934 in Sri Lanka, then Ceylon, and christened Basil Ian Gunewardene. He was born two months prematurely and nearly died five times in his first two months. He moved to Australia in September 1969 where he changed his surname to Gardner. From childhood he had an enquiring mind and an innate interest in the supernatural. Since 1986, nineteen years of meditation, "searching within", reading and revelations have culminated in this free book which has been nine years in the making. Further writings followed and all his writings are available to all on the Internet free of charge. There is more information in the preface of the book.
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6 Responses to The physicist and the theologian.

  1. Ian Gardner says:

    In addition to the content of the above post:
    1.The theologian (that may not be a correct description) was Dr. John Dickson and the physicist Prof. Lawrence Krauss.
    2. Search The Milk Is White for ‘Inside’ and ‘Outside’ the Universe (note the single quotation marks) and the word: intelligence.
    3. The entirety of my writings creates a complete jigsaw puzzle and concentrating on one piece of it, or a few pieces of it, is fraught with problems of comprehension.
    4. At one point the professor referred to the “nothing” being “an intelligence” of sorts.
    5. What I have written and state in my writings in nothing new because it has been stated by others for millennia.

  2. Ganesh says:

    Excellent and interesting, Ian! Thank you very much for sharing.

    Glad they both accepted on “Nothing” which is everything. 🙂

    • Ian Gardner says:

      Ganesh, I cannot say that they did accept!
      Actually, the professor was rather silly: he started by responding to Dr. Dickson’s assertion that Christianity presented the truth by asserting that science did as well [both patently false :-)] and later tripped up when he said that the beauty with science was that it could correct itself. Well, science has been correcting itself (when the arrogance and/or pride of scientists permits) for centuries – even before the Earth was flat and the stars revolved around the Earth!

  3. Ian Gardner says:

    A couple more (from The QVF III) to shed more light on this:

    Thought is still – there is no motion. Thought acts but there is no activity.

    Thought is the Great Spirit, the First Cause, the Creative Force, God; and, whatever name it is given, the Great Spirit, the First Cause, the Creative Force, God is Thought.

    Science and the Reality.
    Science is the study of physics (the physical) and the Reality is not physical.

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